How long to image the M105 with the Vaonis Vespera II

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 1 h (358 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M105. A quick look takes 15 min; a showpiece 3 h 58 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 26 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 6% of the frame’s short side.

M105 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site6 min34 subs22 min135 subs1 h 30 min539 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site6 min36 subs24 min142 subs1 h 34 min567 subs
Bortle 3Rural6 min39 subs26 min155 subs1 h 43 min619 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition8 min47 subs31 min186 subs2 h 04 min744 subs
Bortle 5Suburban10 min59 subs39 min236 subs2 h 37 min942 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban15 min90 subs1 h358 subs3 h 58 min1,430 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition25 min148 subs1 h 38 min590 subs6 h 33 min2,358 subs
Bortle 8City40 min238 subs2 h 38 min950 subs11 h3,799 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 12 min430 subs4 h 46 min1,719 subs19 h6,873 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 17 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M105 is 5.4′ × 4.8′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it fills 6% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s26 min155 subs39 min236 subs1 h 38 min590 subs
20 s23 min68 subs36 min109 subs1 h 35 min286 subs
30 s22 min44 subs35 min71 subs1 h 34 min189 subs

About the M105

An elliptical in the Leo I group, with NGC 3384 and NGC 3389 forming a tight trio.

NGC 3379 · Galaxy in Leo · magnitude 9.3 · 5.4′ × 4.8′ · best in Feb, Mar, Apr. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the Vaonis Vespera II

A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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