How long to image the M4 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro needs about 1 h 21 min (488 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M4. A quick look takes 20 min; a showpiece 5 h 25 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 32 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 43% of the frame’s short side.

M4 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site7 min42 subs28 min167 subs1 h 51 min665 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site7 min45 subs29 min177 subs1 h 57 min705 subs
Bortle 3Rural8 min49 subs32 min195 subs2 h 10 min779 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition10 min60 subs40 min240 subs2 h 40 min960 subs
Bortle 5Suburban13 min78 subs52 min312 subs3 h 28 min1,247 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban20 min122 subs1 h 21 min488 subs5 h 25 min1,951 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition34 min206 subs2 h 17 min823 subs9 h 09 min3,292 subs
Bortle 8City56 min336 subs3 h 44 min1,344 subs15 h5,375 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 42 min614 subs6 h 49 min2,454 subs27 h9,816 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 46 min of run time. The Seestar S50 Pro’s battery (rated about 9 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M4 is 36′ across. The Seestar S50 Pro frames 2.45° × 1.38° at 2.30″ per pixel, so it fills 43% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s32 min195 subs52 min312 subs2 h 17 min823 subs
20 s28 min83 subs47 min142 subs2 h 12 min397 subs
30 s26 min52 subs45 min91 subs2 h 11 min262 subs
60 s30 min30 subs44 min44 subs2 h 09 min129 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M4. It is a globular cluster, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 12 times slower.

About the M4

The loose globular next to Antares. Low in the sky from the UK, so image it near transit.

NGC 6121 · Globular cluster in Scorpius · magnitude 5.9 · 36′ · best in May, Jun, Jul. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Globular clusters are point sources packed tight, so they come quickly: the core resolves into stars within a handful of minutes on any smart scope. More time deepens the halo and pulls in the faint outer members. Use short subs so the core does not saturate into a white blob, and no filter.

About the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

The S50 optics at 260 mm on an 8 MP 1/1.2-inch sensor: a wider, taller field, four times the pixels, and 60 s subs in EQ mode. Per pixel it is a whisker slower than the S50 because of the longer focal length; the long subs make it the better dark-site scope.

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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