How long to image the M41 with the Celestron Origin
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Celestron Origin needs about 5 min (30 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M41. A quick look takes 2 min; a showpiece 15 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 5 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 74% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 15 min90 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 7 min of run time. The Origin’s battery (rated about 6 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time, and 30% off the battery for a January night.)
- portable power station 300W AC outletRuns the supplied 12 V adapter in the field; the dew shield and heater are already built in.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
- hand warmers long lastingAir-activated packs give hours of heat for the person; winter nights are long and you spend most of them standing still.
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How it frames
The M41 is 38′ across. The Origin frames 1.27° × 0.85° at 1.48″ per pixel, so it fills 74% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
10 s auto subs (15 s with the Nebula Filter); manual 1 to 30 s on the alt-az mount, longer only with the EQ wedge, and 60 s and up needs the StarSense Autoguider too. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 5 min30 subs | 5 min30 subs | 5 min30 subs |
| 15 s | 8 min30 subs | 8 min30 subs | 8 min30 subs |
| 30 s | 15 min30 subs | 15 min30 subs | 15 min30 subs |
About the M41
A bright naked-eye cluster four degrees below Sirius, with several orange giants.
NGC 2287 · Open cluster in Canis Major · magnitude 4.5 · 38′ · best in Dec, Jan, Feb. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Open clusters are the easiest targets in the sky. The stars are bright, so the aim is colour and tight stars rather than depth: short subs, no filter, and stop before the bright members saturate. The nominal time here gets you clean star colour; more integration only adds background stars.
About the Celestron Origin
The first-generation Origin: a 6-inch f/2.2 RASA in a smart package and the fastest system here by a wide margin. Superseded by the Mark II in late 2025 and no longer sold new; Celestron offers a camera upgrade to the Mark II sensor.
10 s auto subs (15 s with the Nebula Filter); manual 1 to 30 s on the alt-az mount, longer only with the EQ wedge, and 60 s and up needs the StarSense Autoguider too. Filter drawer takes 1.25-inch or 2-inch filters, including dual-band; Celestron sells an optional Nebula Filter.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the M41 from a Origin? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- M41 with the ZWO Seestar S50: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 8 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 8 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the DwarfLab Draco: 15 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 6 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Unistellar Odyssey: 9 min from Bortle 6
- M41 with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 5 min from Bortle 6