How long to image the M65 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera Pro needs about 1 h 56 min (697 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M65. A quick look takes 29 min; a showpiece 7 h 45 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 53 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 12 min70 subs | 47 min280 subs | 3 h 06 min1,117 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 12 min73 subs | 49 min292 subs | 3 h 15 min1,168 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 13 min80 subs | 53 min317 subs | 3 h 31 min1,266 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 16 min94 subs | 1 h 03 min376 subs | 4 h 10 min1,501 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 20 min118 subs | 1 h 18 min469 subs | 5 h 12 min1,874 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 29 min175 subs | 1 h 56 min697 subs | 7 h 45 min2,788 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 47 min284 subs | 3 h 09 min1,133 subs | 13 h4,532 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 1 h 15 min453 subs | 5 h 02 min1,810 subs | 20 h7,238 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 2 h 16 min814 subs | 9 h 02 min3,253 subs | 36 h13,010 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 2 h 31 min of run time. The Vespera Pro’s battery (rated about 11 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 20000mAh 30WExtends the 11 h battery; 30 W PD per Vaonis.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The M65 is 10′ × 3′ across. The Vespera Pro frames 1.62° × 1.62° at 1.65″ per pixel, so it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 53 min317 subs | 1 h 18 min469 subs | 3 h 09 min1,133 subs |
| 20 s | 45 min135 subs | 1 h 10 min211 subs | 3 h 01 min543 subs |
| 30 s | 42 min85 subs | 1 h 07 min135 subs | 2 h 58 min357 subs |
About the M65
One of the Leo Triplet, an inclined spiral with a bright core. Fits in a frame with M66 and NGC 3628.
NGC 3623 · Galaxy in Leo · magnitude 9.3 · 10′ × 3′ · best in Feb, Mar, Apr. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.
Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.
About the Vaonis Vespera Pro
The square-sensor Vespera with 2 µm pixels. Higher resolution than the II, and correspondingly slower per pixel: expect around double the time for the same per-pixel SNR. Run-out in 2026 and replaced by the Vespera Pro 2.
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the M65 from a Vespera Pro? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- M65 with the ZWO Seestar S50: 52 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 57 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 55 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 1 h from Bortle 6
- M65 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 1 h 16 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 52 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the DwarfLab Draco: 43 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 2 h 56 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 52 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 50 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 1 h 51 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 46 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Unistellar Odyssey: 3 h 33 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Celestron Origin: 14 min from Bortle 6
- M65 with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 19 min from Bortle 6
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