How long to image the M90 with the Vaonis Vespera II
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 2 h 32 min (910 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M90. A quick look takes 38 min; a showpiece 10 h. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 58 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 11% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 12 min74 subs | 49 min296 subs | 3 h 17 min1,184 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 13 min79 subs | 52 min315 subs | 3 h 30 min1,260 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 15 min88 subs | 58 min351 subs | 3 h 54 min1,402 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 18 min110 subs | 1 h 13 min437 subs | 4 h 51 min1,748 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 24 min144 subs | 1 h 36 min574 subs | 6 h 23 min2,296 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 38 min228 subs | 2 h 32 min910 subs | 10 h3,640 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 1 h 05 min388 subs | 4 h 18 min1,551 subs | 17 h6,202 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 1 h 46 min637 subs | 7 h 04 min2,545 subs | 28 h10,179 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 3 h 14 min1,167 subs | 13 h4,666 subs | 52 h18,661 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 3 h 17 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 20000mAh 30WOnly four hours inside; Vaonis specifies a 30 W PD source. C-to-C cable not included.
- Vaonis Vespera hygrometer sensorTriggers the built-in demister automatically; the correct dew accessory for the II.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The M90 is 9.5′ × 4.5′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it fills 11% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 58 min351 subs | 1 h 36 min574 subs | 4 h 18 min1,551 subs |
| 20 s | 50 min150 subs | 1 h 27 min261 subs | 4 h 10 min749 subs |
| 30 s | 47 min94 subs | 1 h 24 min169 subs | 4 h 07 min494 subs |
About the M90
A large spiral whose arms have been stripped by the cluster medium. Smooth and elongated.
NGC 4569 · Galaxy in Virgo · magnitude 9.5 · 9.5′ × 4.5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.
Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.
About the Vaonis Vespera II
A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the M90 from a Vespera II? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- M90 with the ZWO Seestar S50: 2 h 32 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 2 h 46 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 2 h 39 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 2 h 56 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 3 h 40 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 2 h 31 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the DwarfLab Draco: 2 h 04 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 h 39 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 5 h 40 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 2 h 25 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 h 24 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 h 18 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Unistellar Odyssey: 11 h from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Celestron Origin: 40 min from Bortle 6
- M90 with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 55 min from Bortle 6