How long to image the Sagittarius Star Cloud with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro needs about 10 min (58 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the Sagittarius Star Cloud. A quick look takes 2 min; a showpiece 39 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 5 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it is just over the frame at 1.1×.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 18 min106 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 18 min109 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 2 min10 subs | 5 min30 subs | 19 min117 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 2 min10 subs | 6 min34 subs | 22 min134 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 2 min11 subs | 7 min41 subs | 27 min163 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 2 min15 subs | 10 min58 subs | 39 min232 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 4 min23 subs | 15 min91 subs | 1 h363 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 6 min36 subs | 24 min142 subs | 1 h 35 min568 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 10 min63 subs | 42 min251 subs | 2 h 47 min1,004 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 13 min of run time. The Seestar S50 Pro’s battery (rated about 9 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 20000mAh 30WAccepts 12 V 3 A PD, so a 30 W bank tops up the 10,000 mAh cell while imaging.
- Seestar S50 Pro dew shieldDew heater is built in; a shield adds margin on damp nights. Check the listing says S50 Pro.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The Sagittarius Star Cloud is 90′ across. The Seestar S50 Pro frames 2.45° × 1.38° at 2.30″ per pixel, so it is just over the frame at 1.1×. Point at the part you want; the edges will fall outside the frame.
Longer subs
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 5 min30 subs | 7 min41 subs | 15 min91 subs |
| 20 s | 10 min30 subs | 10 min30 subs | 15 min44 subs |
| 30 s | 15 min30 subs | 15 min30 subs | 15 min30 subs |
| 60 s | 30 min30 subs | 30 min30 subs | 30 min30 subs |
Leave the dual-band filter out for the Sagittarius Star Cloud. It is a star cloud, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 11 times slower.
About the Sagittarius Star Cloud
A window through the dust into the inner Milky Way, densely packed with stars. Short stacks are enough; it is stars, not nebulosity.
M24, IC 4715 · Star cloud in Sagittarius · magnitude 4.6 · 90′ · best in Jun, Jul, Aug. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Star clouds are dense fields of ordinary stars rather than nebulosity. Short subs, no filter, and a modest total keep the field from saturating while still showing the depth of the Milky Way.
About the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro
The S50 optics at 260 mm on an 8 MP 1/1.2-inch sensor: a wider, taller field, four times the pixels, and 60 s subs in EQ mode. Per pixel it is a whisker slower than the S50 because of the longer focal length; the long subs make it the better dark-site scope.
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the Sagittarius Star Cloud from a Seestar S50 Pro? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the ZWO Seestar S50: 9 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the ZWO Seestar S30: 9 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 10 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 13 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 9 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the DwarfLab Draco: 15 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 29 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Vaonis Vespera II: 9 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 20 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 8 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 19 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 8 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Unistellar Odyssey: 34 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Celestron Origin: 5 min from Bortle 6
- Sagittarius Star Cloud with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 5 min from Bortle 6
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