How long to image the M78 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro needs about 1 h 13 min (436 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M78. A quick look takes 18 min; a showpiece 4 h 51 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 31 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 6% of the frame’s short side.

M78 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site7 min42 subs27 min165 subs1 h 49 min657 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site7 min44 subs29 min173 subs1 h 55 min691 subs
Bortle 3Rural8 min48 subs31 min189 subs2 h 06 min754 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition9 min57 subs38 min227 subs2 h 31 min907 subs
Bortle 5Suburban12 min72 subs48 min288 subs3 h 11 min1,149 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban18 min109 subs1 h 13 min436 subs4 h 51 min1,744 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition30 min180 subs2 h720 subs8 h2,878 subs
Bortle 8City48 min290 subs3 h 13 min1,160 subs13 h4,638 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 27 min525 subs5 h 50 min2,099 subs23 h8,393 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 34 min of run time. The Seestar S30 Pro’s battery (rated about 5 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time, and 30% off the battery for a December night.)

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How it frames

The M78 is 8′ × 6′ across. The Seestar S30 Pro frames 3.99° × 2.24° at 3.74″ per pixel, so it fills 6% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, which needs the TH10 head. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s31 min189 subs48 min288 subs2 h720 subs
20 s27 min81 subs43 min131 subs1 h 56 min347 subs
30 s26 min52 subs42 min85 subs1 h 54 min229 subs
60 s30 min30 subs41 min41 subs1 h 53 min113 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M78. It is a reflection nebula, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 12 times slower.

About the M78

The brightest reflection nebula in the sky, blue dust lit by young stars in Orion's belt. No filter; it is starlight.

NGC 2068 · Reflection nebula in Orion · magnitude 8.3 · 8′ × 6′ · best in Nov, Dec, Jan. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Reflection nebulae are starlight scattered by dust, so they are broadband and blue. A dual-band filter removes almost all of it; do not use one. These are among the faintest structures a smart scope can attempt and the figures run long. A dark sky matters more here than for any other type, and the Moon must be down.

About the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro

The S30 optics upgraded to a quadruplet in front of an 8 MP IMX585. Same speed per pixel as the S30, four times the pixels, so you can crop hard.

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, which needs the TH10 head. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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