How long to image the M78 with the ZWO Seestar S30

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S30 needs about 1 h 06 min (395 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M78. A quick look takes 16 min; a showpiece 4 h 23 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 29 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 11% of the frame’s short side.

M78 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site6 min39 subs26 min156 subs1 h 44 min622 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site7 min41 subs27 min163 subs1 h 49 min652 subs
Bortle 3Rural7 min45 subs29 min177 subs1 h 58 min707 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition9 min53 subs35 min211 subs2 h 20 min842 subs
Bortle 5Suburban11 min66 subs44 min264 subs2 h 56 min1,055 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban16 min99 subs1 h 06 min395 subs4 h 23 min1,578 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition27 min161 subs1 h 47 min644 subs7 h 09 min2,574 subs
Bortle 8City43 min258 subs2 h 52 min1,031 subs11 h4,121 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 17 min464 subs5 h 09 min1,856 subs21 h7,421 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 25 min of run time. The Seestar S30’s battery (rated about 6 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time, and 30% off the battery for a December night.)

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How it frames

The M78 is 8′ × 6′ across. The Seestar S30 frames 2.13° × 1.20° at 3.99″ per pixel, so it fills 11% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, which needs the TH10 head. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s29 min177 subs44 min264 subs1 h 47 min644 subs
20 s25 min74 subs39 min118 subs1 h 42 min308 subs
30 s23 min46 subs37 min75 subs1 h 41 min202 subs
60 s30 min30 subs36 min36 subs1 h 39 min100 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M78. It is a reflection nebula, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 13 times slower.

About the M78

The brightest reflection nebula in the sky, blue dust lit by young stars in Orion's belt. No filter; it is starlight.

NGC 2068 · Reflection nebula in Orion · magnitude 8.3 · 8′ × 6′ · best in Nov, Dec, Jan. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Reflection nebulae are starlight scattered by dust, so they are broadband and blue. A dual-band filter removes almost all of it; do not use one. These are among the faintest structures a smart scope can attempt and the figures run long. A dark sky matters more here than for any other type, and the Moon must be down.

About the ZWO Seestar S30

Wider and lighter than the S50 with the same 2.9 µm pixels, so its per-pixel speed on extended targets is close despite the smaller aperture. Ideal for big nebulae.

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, which needs the TH10 head. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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