How long should I image the M85 with the Vespera 3 from a Bortle 6 sky?

About 1 h 20 min of total integration for a solid image, or 5 h 21 min for a showpiece. A quick look takes 20 min.

How many subs is that on the Vespera 3?

At the default 10 s sub length, 482 subs for a solid image from Bortle 6 and 199 from Bortle 3.

Does a dual-band filter help on the M85?

No. The M85 is a broadband target and a dual-band filter blocks most of its light. Shoot without a filter.

How long to image the M85 with the Vaonis Vespera 3

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera 3 needs about 1 h 20 min (482 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M85. A quick look takes 20 min; a showpiece 5 h 21 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 33 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 8% of the frame’s short side.

M85 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 10 s subs.
Sky	Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy	SolidClean enough to share	ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site	7 min43 subs	28 min171 subs	1 h 54 min684 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site	8 min46 subs	30 min181 subs	2 h722 subs
Bortle 3Rural	8 min50 subs	33 min199 subs	2 h 12 min794 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition	10 min61 subs	40 min243 subs	2 h 41 min969 subs
Bortle 5Suburban	13 min78 subs	52 min312 subs	3 h 28 min1,246 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban	20 min121 subs	1 h 20 min482 subs	5 h 21 min1,927 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition	34 min202 subs	2 h 14 min806 subs	8 h 57 min3,223 subs
Bortle 8City	55 min328 subs	3 h 38 min1,309 subs	15 h5,235 subs
Bortle 9Inner city	1 h 39 min596 subs	6 h 37 min2,382 subs	26 h9,526 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 44 min of run time. The Vespera 3’s battery (rated about 11 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M85 is 7′ × 5.5′ across. The Vespera 3 frames 2.60° × 1.46° at 2.44″ per pixel, so it fills 8% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only; CovalENS mosaic widens the field to 4.3° × 2.4°. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub length	Bortle 3	Bortle 5	Bortle 7
10 s	33 min199 subs	52 min312 subs	2 h 14 min806 subs
20 s	29 min87 subs	48 min144 subs	2 h 10 min391 subs
30 s	27 min55 subs	46 min93 subs	2 h 09 min258 subs

About the M85

A lenticular galaxy at the northern edge of the Virgo cluster, with NGC 4394 alongside.

NGC 4382 · Galaxy in Coma Berenices · magnitude 9.1 · 7′ × 5.5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the Vaonis Vespera 3

The 2026 Vespera: same 50 mm quadruplet class as the II on an 8 MP IMX585, with a 24 MP mosaic mode and 11 hours of battery. Per pixel it behaves like a Seestar S50 Pro without the built-in dual-band filter.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only; CovalENS mosaic widens the field to 4.3° × 2.4°. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar. The new optical baffle is not a substitute for a CLS filter.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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