How long to image the M85 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the DwarfLab DWARF 3 needs about 2 h 02 min (490 subs of 15 s) for a solid image of the M85. A quick look takes 31 min; a showpiece 8 h 09 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 46 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 7% of the frame’s short side.

M85 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 15 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site10 min40 subs39 min157 subs2 h 36 min626 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site10 min42 subs42 min167 subs2 h 47 min667 subs
Bortle 3Rural12 min47 subs46 min186 subs3 h 06 min744 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition15 min59 subs58 min233 subs3 h 53 min932 subs
Bortle 5Suburban19 min77 subs1 h 17 min308 subs5 h 07 min1,229 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban31 min123 subs2 h 02 min490 subs8 h 09 min1,958 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition52 min210 subs3 h 29 min837 subs14 h3,348 subs
Bortle 8City1 h 26 min345 subs5 h 44 min1,377 subs23 h5,506 subs
Bortle 9Inner city2 h 38 min632 subs11 h2,527 subs42 h10,107 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 2 h 39 min of run time. The DWARF 3’s battery (rated about 5 h 30 min) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M85 is 7′ × 5.5′ across. The DWARF 3 frames 2.93° × 1.65° at 2.75″ per pixel, so it fills 7% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling on the tele camera. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
15 s46 min186 subs1 h 17 min308 subs3 h 29 min837 subs
30 s44 min88 subs1 h 14 min149 subs3 h 27 min414 subs
60 s43 min43 subs1 h 13 min73 subs3 h 25 min206 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M85. It is a galaxy, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 10 times slower.

About the M85

A lenticular galaxy at the northern edge of the Virgo cluster, with NGC 4394 alongside.

NGC 4382 · Galaxy in Coma Berenices · magnitude 9.1 · 7′ × 5.5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the DwarfLab DWARF 3

Small pixels on a 35 mm f/4.3 lens give a sharper image than its aperture suggests, and EQ mode with 60 s subs makes it the read-noise winner in dark skies.

Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling on the tele camera. Three built-in filters: VIS, Astro (430 to 690 nm) and dual-band Hα 656 nm / OIII 501 nm.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 15 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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