How long to image the M85 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the DwarfLab DWARF mini needs about 1 h 24 min (335 subs of 15 s) for a solid image of the M85. A quick look takes 21 min; a showpiece 5 h 35 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 35 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.

M85 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 15 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site7 min30 subs30 min119 subs1 h 59 min476 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site8 min32 subs31 min126 subs2 h 05 min502 subs
Bortle 3Rural9 min35 subs35 min139 subs2 h 18 min553 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition11 min43 subs42 min169 subs2 h 48 min674 subs
Bortle 5Suburban14 min55 subs54 min217 subs3 h 36 min866 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban21 min84 subs1 h 24 min335 subs5 h 35 min1,339 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition35 min140 subs2 h 20 min560 subs9 h 19 min2,238 subs
Bortle 8City57 min228 subs3 h 47 min909 subs15 h3,635 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 43 min414 subs6 h 53 min1,654 subs28 h6,614 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 49 min of run time. The DWARF mini’s battery (rated about 3 h 30 min) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M85 is 7′ × 5.5′ across. The DWARF mini frames 2.13° × 1.20° at 3.99″ per pixel, so it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 90 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
15 s35 min139 subs54 min217 subs2 h 20 min560 subs
30 s30 min61 subs50 min100 subs2 h 15 min271 subs
60 s30 min30 subs48 min48 subs2 h 13 min134 subs
90 s45 min30 subs47 min32 subs2 h 13 min89 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M85. It is a galaxy, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 11 times slower.

About the M85

A lenticular galaxy at the northern edge of the Virgo cluster, with NGC 4394 alongside.

NGC 4382 · Galaxy in Coma Berenices · magnitude 9.1 · 7′ × 5.5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the DwarfLab DWARF mini

DwarfLab’s answer to the Seestar S30: same sensor and focal length, big pixels, dual-band filter built in, and 90 s subs in EQ mode. Sensitivity over megapixels.

Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 90 s is the ceiling. Built-in Astro (430 to 690 nm), dark-frame and dual-band Hα / OIII filters; no plain VIS filter on the tele camera.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 15 s and 90 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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