How long to image the Carina Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera II

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 12 min (74 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the Carina Nebula. A quick look takes 3 min; a showpiece 49 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 6 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it is just over the frame at 1.4×.

Carina Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera II: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site2 min10 subs5 min32 subs21 min125 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site2 min10 subs5 min33 subs22 min130 subs
Bortle 3Rural2 min10 subs6 min35 subs23 min140 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition2 min11 subs7 min41 subs27 min164 subs
Bortle 5Suburban2 min13 subs8 min51 subs33 min201 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban3 min19 subs12 min74 subs49 min294 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition5 min30 subs20 min118 subs1 h 18 min470 subs
Bortle 8City8 min47 subs31 min186 subs2 h 04 min743 subs
Bortle 9Inner city14 min83 subs55 min332 subs3 h 41 min1,326 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 16 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The Carina Nebula is 120′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it is just over the frame at 1.4×. Point at the part you want; the edges will fall outside the frame.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s6 min35 subs8 min51 subs20 min118 subs
20 s10 min30 subs10 min30 subs19 min57 subs
30 s15 min30 subs15 min30 subs19 min38 subs

With and without the dual-band filter

Solid quality, default sub length.
FilterBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
No filter6 min35 subs8 min51 subs20 min118 subs
dual-band (Dual Band filter), clip-on7 min44 subs8 min49 subs11 min69 subs

The Vespera II has no built-in dual-band filter. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted. On an emission target like this it is the single biggest upgrade you can make.

About the Carina Nebula

Four times the size and brightness of the Orion Nebula, the best emission nebula in the sky. Southern hemisphere only, and easy from anywhere it rises.

NGC 3372, Caldwell 92, Eta Carinae Nebula · Emission nebula in Carina · magnitude 1.0 · 120′ · best in Feb, Mar, Apr. Low or below the horizon from northern Europe; best from the southern US southwards.

Emission nebulae glow in a few narrow lines, mostly hydrogen-alpha (deep red) and doubly ionised oxygen (teal). A dual-band filter passes those lines and blocks most skyglow, which is why it cuts the time needed from a suburban sky so dramatically. Use it. From a genuinely dark site the gain is smaller because there is less skyglow to block, and read noise becomes the limit, which is where longer subs (EQ mode, or Expert Mode on a Vespera) earn their keep.

Stars lose colour through a dual-band filter; a short broadband stack blended in fixes that if you care.

About the Vaonis Vespera II

A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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