How long to image the M58 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the DwarfLab DWARF mini needs about 2 h 36 min (623 subs of 15 s) for a solid image of the M58. A quick look takes 39 min; a showpiece 10 h. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 01 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 8% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 13 min52 subs | 52 min207 subs | 3 h 27 min828 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 14 min55 subs | 55 min220 subs | 3 h 40 min879 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 15 min61 subs | 1 h 01 min244 subs | 4 h 04 min976 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 19 min76 subs | 1 h 16 min303 subs | 5 h 02 min1,210 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 25 min99 subs | 1 h 39 min395 subs | 6 h 35 min1,580 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 39 min156 subs | 2 h 36 min623 subs | 10 h2,489 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 1 h 06 min264 subs | 4 h 24 min1,056 subs | 18 h4,221 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 1 h 48 min432 subs | 7 h 12 min1,728 subs | 29 h6,911 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 3 h 18 min791 subs | 13 h3,162 subs | 53 h12,646 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 3 h 22 min of run time. The DWARF mini’s battery is rated at about 3 h 30 min, which is cutting it fine; take a power bank. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 10000mAh 20W7,000 mAh inside, about four hours; a PD bank extends the night.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The M58 is 6′ × 5′ across. The DWARF mini frames 2.13° × 1.20° at 3.99″ per pixel, so it fills 8% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 90 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15 s | 1 h 01 min244 subs | 1 h 39 min395 subs | 4 h 24 min1,056 subs |
| 30 s | 52 min105 subs | 1 h 30 min181 subs | 4 h 15 min511 subs |
| 60 s | 48 min49 subs | 1 h 26 min86 subs | 4 h 11 min252 subs |
| 90 s | 47 min32 subs | 1 h 25 min57 subs | 4 h 10 min167 subs |
Leave the dual-band filter out for the M58. It is a galaxy, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 12 times slower.
About the M58
A barred spiral in the Virgo cluster, one of the brighter members. Frame it with M59 and M60.
NGC 4579 · Galaxy in Virgo · magnitude 9.7 · 6′ × 5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.
Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.
About the DwarfLab DWARF mini
DwarfLab’s answer to the Seestar S30: same sensor and focal length, big pixels, dual-band filter built in, and 90 s subs in EQ mode. Sensitivity over megapixels.
Auto mode caps subs at 15 s; 30 s and longer need EQ mode, and 90 s is the ceiling. Built-in Astro (430 to 690 nm), dark-frame and dual-band Hα / OIII filters; no plain VIS filter on the tele camera.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 15 s and 90 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the M58 from a DWARF mini? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- M58 with the ZWO Seestar S50: 2 h 36 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 2 h 51 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 2 h 44 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 3 h 01 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 3 h 47 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the DwarfLab Draco: 2 h 08 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 h 53 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 2 h 36 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 5 h 50 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 2 h 29 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 h 33 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 h 21 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Unistellar Odyssey: 11 h from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Celestron Origin: 41 min from Bortle 6
- M58 with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 57 min from Bortle 6