How long to image the M58 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro needs about 2 h 51 min (1,026 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M58. A quick look takes 43 min; a showpiece 11 h. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 09 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 7% of the frame’s short side.

M58 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site15 min88 subs59 min352 subs3 h 54 min1,407 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site16 min94 subs1 h 02 min373 subs4 h 08 min1,490 subs
Bortle 3Rural17 min103 subs1 h 09 min412 subs4 h 34 min1,646 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition21 min127 subs1 h 24 min507 subs5 h 38 min2,026 subs
Bortle 5Suburban27 min165 subs1 h 49 min657 subs7 h 18 min2,627 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban43 min257 subs2 h 51 min1,026 subs11 h4,101 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition1 h 12 min432 subs4 h 48 min1,728 subs19 h6,912 subs
Bortle 8City1 h 57 min705 subs7 h 50 min2,819 subs31 h11,275 subs
Bortle 9Inner city3 h 34 min1,287 subs14 h5,146 subs57 h20,581 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 3 h 42 min of run time. The Seestar S50 Pro’s battery (rated about 9 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M58 is 6′ × 5′ across. The Seestar S50 Pro frames 2.45° × 1.38° at 2.30″ per pixel, so it fills 7% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s1 h 09 min412 subs1 h 49 min657 subs4 h 48 min1,728 subs
20 s58 min175 subs1 h 39 min298 subs4 h 38 min833 subs
30 s55 min110 subs1 h 36 min192 subs4 h 34 min549 subs
60 s51 min52 subs1 h 32 min93 subs4 h 31 min271 subs

Leave the dual-band filter out for the M58. It is a galaxy, and it shines right across the spectrum. A dual-band filter keeps two emission lines and throws the rest away, so most of the light you came for is being stopped along with the sky. From a Bortle 6 sky it would be roughly 12 times slower.

About the M58

A barred spiral in the Virgo cluster, one of the brighter members. Frame it with M59 and M60.

NGC 4579 · Galaxy in Virgo · magnitude 9.7 · 6′ × 5′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

The S50 optics at 260 mm on an 8 MP 1/1.2-inch sensor: a wider, taller field, four times the pixels, and 60 s subs in EQ mode. Per pixel it is a whisker slower than the S50 because of the longer focal length; the long subs make it the better dark-site scope.

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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