How long to image the M86 with the Vaonis Vespera II

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 1 h 27 min (524 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the M86. A quick look takes 22 min; a showpiece 5 h 49 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 35 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.

M86 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site8 min46 subs30 min182 subs2 h 01 min725 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site8 min48 subs32 min192 subs2 h 08 min767 subs
Bortle 3Rural9 min53 subs35 min212 subs2 h 21 min847 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition11 min65 subs43 min260 subs2 h 53 min1,040 subs
Bortle 5Suburban14 min85 subs56 min337 subs3 h 44 min1,345 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban22 min131 subs1 h 27 min524 subs5 h 49 min2,095 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition37 min221 subs2 h 27 min881 subs9 h 47 min3,524 subs
Bortle 8City1 h359 subs3 h 59 min1,436 subs16 h5,742 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 49 min655 subs7 h 16 min2,618 subs29 h10,472 subs

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Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 53 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The M86 is 9′ × 6′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it fills 10% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s35 min212 subs56 min337 subs2 h 27 min881 subs
20 s30 min92 subs51 min154 subs2 h 22 min426 subs
30 s29 min58 subs50 min100 subs2 h 20 min281 subs

About the M86

M84's companion in Markarian's Chain, a large elliptical falling into the Virgo cluster.

NGC 4406 · Galaxy in Virgo · magnitude 8.9 · 9′ × 6′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the Vaonis Vespera II

A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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