How long to image the M87 with the Unistellar Odyssey
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Unistellar Odyssey needs about 4 h 16 min (3,839 subs of 4 s) for a solid image of the M87. A quick look takes 1 h 04 min; a showpiece 17 h. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 2 h 54 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is a mix of skyglow and read noise. In this scope's field it fills 24% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 41 min622 subs | 2 h 46 min2,488 subs | 11 h9,950 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 42 min633 subs | 2 h 49 min2,529 subs | 11 h10,116 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 43 min652 subs | 2 h 54 min2,608 subs | 12 h10,430 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 47 min700 subs | 3 h 07 min2,798 subs | 12 h11,191 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 52 min775 subs | 3 h 27 min3,100 subs | 14 h12,397 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 1 h 04 min960 subs | 4 h 16 min3,839 subs | 17 h15,356 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 1 h 27 min1,313 subs | 5 h 50 min5,249 subs | 23 h20,995 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 2 h 04 min1,860 subs | 8 h 16 min7,438 subs | 33 h29,749 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 3 h 22 min3,027 subs | 13 h12,105 subs | 54 h48,419 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 5 h 33 min of run time. The Odyssey’s battery is rated at about 5 h, so the session needs an external power bank. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB power bank 20000mAh 5V 2.4AUnistellar says plain 5 V 2.4 A and warns against fast or adaptive chargers.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The M87 is 8′ × 7′ across. The Odyssey frames 0.75° × 0.56° at 0.93″ per pixel, so it fills 24% of the frame’s short side.
About the M87
The supergiant elliptical at the heart of the Virgo cluster, home of the first-photographed black hole. Bright, round, structureless.
NGC 4486, Virgo A · Galaxy in Virgo · magnitude 8.6 · 8′ × 7′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.
Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.
About the Unistellar Odyssey
Unistellar’s compact 85 mm with autofocus and tiny pixels. Sharp, but the fine sampling costs time on faint extended targets. The Odyssey Pro is the same telescope with an eyepiece added, so these figures apply to both.
Fixed 4 s subs in Enhanced Vision; they cannot be changed. No filter option; Unistellar says third-party filters cannot be fitted to the Odyssey.
The Odyssey uses fixed 4 s subs, so the only levers you have are the sky you shoot from, the filter, and total time.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
Have an image of the M87 from a Odyssey? Email it with your total time and sky to [email protected] and it goes here, credited.
Same target, other telescopes
- M87 with the ZWO Seestar S50: 1 h 03 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 1 h 08 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the ZWO Seestar S30: 1 h 06 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 1 h 13 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 1 h 31 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 1 h 02 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the DwarfLab Draco: 51 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 3 h 32 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Vaonis Vespera II: 1 h 03 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 2 h 20 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 1 h from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 2 h 13 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 56 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Celestron Origin: 17 min from Bortle 6
- M87 with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 23 min from Bortle 6