How long to image the Needle Galaxy with the Vaonis Vespera II

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 1 h 06 min (396 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the Needle Galaxy. A quick look takes 16 min; a showpiece 4 h 24 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 26 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 19% of the frame’s short side.

Needle Galaxy with the Vaonis Vespera II: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site6 min34 subs22 min134 subs1 h 29 min534 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site6 min36 subs24 min142 subs1 h 34 min566 subs
Bortle 3Rural7 min40 subs26 min157 subs1 h 44 min627 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition8 min49 subs32 min194 subs2 h 09 min775 subs
Bortle 5Suburban11 min64 subs42 min253 subs2 h 48 min1,009 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban16 min99 subs1 h 06 min396 subs4 h 24 min1,582 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition28 min168 subs1 h 51 min669 subs7 h 26 min2,675 subs
Bortle 8City46 min274 subs3 h 02 min1,093 subs12 h4,372 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 23 min500 subs5 h 33 min1,998 subs22 h7,990 subs

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Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 1 h 26 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The Needle Galaxy is 16′ × 2′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it fills 19% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s26 min157 subs42 min253 subs1 h 51 min669 subs
20 s22 min68 subs38 min115 subs1 h 48 min324 subs
30 s21 min43 subs37 min75 subs1 h 46 min213 subs

About the Needle Galaxy

The finest edge-on spiral in the northern sky, a thin needle with a central bulge and dust lane.

NGC 4565, Caldwell 38 · Galaxy in Coma Berenices · magnitude 9.6 · 16′ × 2′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the Vaonis Vespera II

A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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