How long to image the Needle Galaxy with the Vaonis Vespera Pro

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera Pro needs about 2 h 27 min (885 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the Needle Galaxy. A quick look takes 37 min; a showpiece 9 h 50 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 04 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 16% of the frame’s short side.

Needle Galaxy with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 10 s subs.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site14 min84 subs56 min334 subs3 h 42 min1,335 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site15 min88 subs58 min351 subs3 h 54 min1,403 subs
Bortle 3Rural16 min96 subs1 h 04 min383 subs4 h 15 min1,531 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition19 min116 subs1 h 17 min461 subs5 h 07 min1,841 subs
Bortle 5Suburban24 min146 subs1 h 37 min584 subs6 h 29 min2,333 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban37 min222 subs2 h 27 min885 subs9 h 50 min3,538 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition1 h 01 min365 subs4 h 03 min1,459 subs16 h5,836 subs
Bortle 8City1 h 38 min588 subs6 h 32 min2,351 subs26 h9,404 subs
Bortle 9Inner city2 h 57 min1,064 subs12 h4,253 subs47 h17,012 subs

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Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 3 h 12 min of run time. The Vespera Pro’s battery (rated about 11 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The Needle Galaxy is 16′ × 2′ across. The Vespera Pro frames 1.62° × 1.62° at 1.65″ per pixel, so it fills 16% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s1 h 04 min383 subs1 h 37 min584 subs4 h 03 min1,459 subs
20 s53 min160 subs1 h 27 min260 subs3 h 53 min698 subs
30 s50 min100 subs1 h 23 min167 subs3 h 49 min459 subs

About the Needle Galaxy

The finest edge-on spiral in the northern sky, a thin needle with a central bulge and dust lane.

NGC 4565, Caldwell 38 · Galaxy in Coma Berenices · magnitude 9.6 · 16′ × 2′ · best in Mar, Apr, May. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Galaxies are broadband targets: their light is mostly starlight spread across the spectrum, so a dual-band filter throws most of it away and makes things slower, not faster. Shoot without a filter (or with a plain UV/IR cut) and rely on total time and a dark sky. The core of a galaxy is usually many times brighter than its outer disc, so a short stack shows the nucleus long before the arms; the figures here are for the arms and disc, not the core.

Field rotation in Alt-Az mode crops the edges of the stack over a long session, so on a big galaxy re-centre now and then or use EQ mode where your scope supports it.

About the Vaonis Vespera Pro

The square-sensor Vespera with 2 µm pixels. Higher resolution than the II, and correspondingly slower per pixel: expect around double the time for the same per-pixel SNR. Run-out in 2026 and replaced by the Vespera Pro 2.

10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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