How long to image the Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 needs about 1 h 33 min (557 subs of 10 s with the built-in dual-band (LP filter) filter) for a solid image of the Western Veil Nebula. A quick look takes 23 min; a showpiece 6 h 11 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 04 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is a mix of skyglow and read noise. In this scope's field it is 1.6× wider than the frame.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 15 min93 subs | 1 h 02 min371 subs | 4 h 07 min1,482 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 16 min94 subs | 1 h 03 min376 subs | 4 h 11 min1,504 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 16 min97 subs | 1 h 04 min387 subs | 4 h 18 min1,548 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 17 min104 subs | 1 h 09 min414 subs | 4 h 35 min1,653 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 19 min114 subs | 1 h 16 min455 subs | 5 h 03 min1,820 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 23 min140 subs | 1 h 33 min557 subs | 6 h 11 min2,228 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 31 min188 subs | 2 h 05 min752 subs | 8 h 21 min3,007 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 44 min264 subs | 2 h 56 min1,054 subs | 12 h4,216 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 1 h 11 min425 subs | 4 h 43 min1,699 subs | 19 h6,794 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 2 h 01 min of run time. The Seestar S50’s battery (rated about 6 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C power bank 20000mAh 5V 3AThe S50 draws 5 V 3 A over USB-C and runs while charging; no PD needed.
- Seestar S50 dew shieldThe built-in heater copes with most nights; a shield helps in heavy dew and blocks stray light.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The Western Veil Nebula is 70′ × 6′ across. The Seestar S50 frames 1.28° × 0.72° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it is 1.6× wider than the frame. A mosaic, or choosing the part you want and letting the rest go, is how it gets shot on this scope.
Longer subs
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode (app 2.5 and later). Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 1 h 04 min387 subs | 1 h 16 min455 subs | 2 h 05 min752 subs |
| 20 s | 47 min141 subs | 58 min175 subs | 1 h 48 min323 subs |
| 30 s | 41 min82 subs | 52 min105 subs | 1 h 42 min204 subs |
| 60 s | 35 min36 subs | 46 min47 subs | 1 h 36 min96 subs |
With and without the dual-band filter
| Filter | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| UV/IR-cut (no light-pollution filter) | 55 min333 subs | 1 h 32 min555 subs | 4 h 14 min1,525 subs |
| dual-band (LP filter) | 1 h 04 min387 subs | 1 h 16 min455 subs | 2 h 05 min752 subs |
About the Western Veil Nebula
A thin, bright filament of supernova shock running through the star 52 Cygni. A dual-band filter transforms it; without one it drowns in suburban skyglow.
NGC 6960, Witch’s Broom, Caldwell 34 · Supernova remnant in Cygnus · magnitude 7.0 · 70′ × 6′ · best in Jul, Aug, Sep. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Supernova remnants are emission-line objects, strong in both hydrogen-alpha and OIII, and their filaments are thin, so pixel scale matters as much as aperture. A dual-band filter is essential from any lit sky and still helps under a dark one. These are long-integration targets; plan on several sessions and stack across nights.
About the ZWO Seestar S50
The scope that made smart astrophotography mainstream. 50 mm triplet, 2 MP sensor, dual-band filter on a wheel. Alt-Az stacking at 10 s, EQ mode unlocks 60 s. Out of production since 2026 and replaced by the S50 Pro, but there are a great many in use.
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode (app 2.5 and later). Built-in dual-band light-pollution filter, switchable in the app.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
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Same target, other telescopes
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 1 h 44 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30: 1 h 48 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 1 h 52 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 1 h 55 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 1 h 31 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab Draco: 1 h 13 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 h 29 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera II: 2 h 28 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 5 h 32 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 2 h 21 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 h 16 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 h 15 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar Odyssey: 10 h from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin: 39 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 54 min from Bortle 6
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