How long to image the Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera II
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the Vaonis Vespera II needs about 2 h 28 min (889 subs of 10 s) for a solid image of the Western Veil Nebula. A quick look takes 37 min; a showpiece 9 h 52 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 55 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is skyglow, so a darker site or a filter helps more than longer subs. In this scope's field it fills 81% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 12 min70 subs | 46 min279 subs | 3 h 06 min1,114 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 12 min75 subs | 50 min298 subs | 3 h 18 min1,189 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 14 min84 subs | 55 min333 subs | 3 h 42 min1,331 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 17 min105 subs | 1 h 10 min419 subs | 4 h 39 min1,674 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 23 min139 subs | 1 h 32 min555 subs | 6 h 10 min2,218 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 37 min223 subs | 2 h 28 min889 subs | 9 h 52 min3,553 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 1 h 04 min382 subs | 4 h 14 min1,525 subs | 17 h6,097 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 1 h 45 min628 subs | 6 h 59 min2,512 subs | 28 h10,046 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 3 h 12 min1,155 subs | 13 h4,618 subs | 51 h18,469 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 3 h 12 min of run time. The Vespera II’s battery (rated about 4 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 20000mAh 30WOnly four hours inside; Vaonis specifies a 30 W PD source. C-to-C cable not included.
- Vaonis Vespera hygrometer sensorTriggers the built-in demister automatically; the correct dew accessory for the II.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The Western Veil Nebula is 70′ × 6′ across. The Vespera II frames 2.55° × 1.44° at 2.39″ per pixel, so it fills 81% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 55 min333 subs | 1 h 32 min555 subs | 4 h 14 min1,525 subs |
| 20 s | 47 min141 subs | 1 h 24 min252 subs | 4 h 05 min737 subs |
| 30 s | 44 min88 subs | 1 h 21 min162 subs | 4 h 02 min485 subs |
With and without the dual-band filter
| Filter | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| No filter | 55 min333 subs | 1 h 32 min555 subs | 4 h 14 min1,525 subs |
| dual-band (Dual Band filter), clip-on | 1 h 04 min387 subs | 1 h 16 min455 subs | 2 h 05 min752 subs |
The Vespera II has no built-in dual-band filter. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted. On an emission target like this it is the single biggest upgrade you can make.
About the Western Veil Nebula
A thin, bright filament of supernova shock running through the star 52 Cygni. A dual-band filter transforms it; without one it drowns in suburban skyglow.
NGC 6960, Witch’s Broom, Caldwell 34 · Supernova remnant in Cygnus · magnitude 7.0 · 70′ × 6′ · best in Jul, Aug, Sep. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Supernova remnants are emission-line objects, strong in both hydrogen-alpha and OIII, and their filaments are thin, so pixel scale matters as much as aperture. A dual-band filter is essential from any lit sky and still helps under a dark one. These are long-integration targets; plan on several sessions and stack across nights.
About the Vaonis Vespera II
A 50 mm quadruplet on an 8 MP sensor with Vaonis’s mosaic mode for wide fields. Same optics class as the Seestar S50, four times the pixels.
10 s subs by default; Expert Mode manual targets allow 1 to 30 s. Alt-azimuth only, no EQ mode. Optional clip-on Vaonis filters: dual-band, light-pollution (CLS) and solar; the app detects which is fitted.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 30 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
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Same target, other telescopes
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50: 1 h 33 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 1 h 44 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30: 1 h 48 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 1 h 52 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 1 h 55 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 1 h 31 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab Draco: 1 h 13 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 h 29 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 5 h 32 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 2 h 21 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 h 16 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 h 15 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar Odyssey: 10 h from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin: 39 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 54 min from Bortle 6
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