How long to image the Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro
From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro needs about 1 h 44 min (625 subs of 10 s with the built-in dual-band (LP filter) filter) for a solid image of the Western Veil Nebula. A quick look takes 26 min; a showpiece 6 h 57 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 13 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is a mix of skyglow and read noise. In this scope's field it fills 85% of the frame’s short side.
| Sky | Quick lookTarget obvious, still noisy | SolidClean enough to share | ShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bortle 1Excellent dark site | 18 min106 subs | 1 h 10 min423 subs | 4 h 42 min1,692 subs |
| Bortle 2Typical dark site | 18 min108 subs | 1 h 12 min430 subs | 4 h 46 min1,717 subs |
| Bortle 3Rural | 18 min111 subs | 1 h 13 min441 subs | 4 h 54 min1,764 subs |
| Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition | 20 min118 subs | 1 h 18 min470 subs | 5 h 13 min1,878 subs |
| Bortle 5Suburban | 21 min129 subs | 1 h 26 min515 subs | 5 h 43 min2,058 subs |
| Bortle 6Bright suburban | 26 min157 subs | 1 h 44 min625 subs | 6 h 57 min2,500 subs |
| Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition | 35 min209 subs | 2 h 19 min836 subs | 9 h 17 min3,342 subs |
| Bortle 8City | 48 min291 subs | 3 h 14 min1,163 subs | 13 h4,650 subs |
| Bortle 9Inner city | 1 h 17 min465 subs | 5 h 10 min1,860 subs | 21 h7,439 subs |
Power and kit for this session
Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 2 h 15 min of run time. The Seestar S50 Pro’s battery (rated about 9 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)
- USB-C PD power bank 20000mAh 30WAccepts 12 V 3 A PD, so a 30 W bank tops up the 10,000 mAh cell while imaging.
- Seestar S50 Pro dew shieldDew heater is built in; a shield adds margin on damp nights. Check the listing says S50 Pro.
- red LED head torchRed light keeps your night vision; white light costs you twenty minutes of dark adaptation every time.
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How it frames
The Western Veil Nebula is 70′ × 6′ across. The Seestar S50 Pro frames 2.45° × 1.38° at 2.30″ per pixel, so it fills 85% of the frame’s short side.
Longer subs
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:
| Sub length | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 s | 1 h 13 min441 subs | 1 h 26 min515 subs | 2 h 19 min836 subs |
| 20 s | 53 min159 subs | 1 h 05 min196 subs | 1 h 59 min356 subs |
| 30 s | 46 min92 subs | 58 min117 subs | 1 h 52 min224 subs |
| 60 s | 39 min40 subs | 51 min52 subs | 1 h 45 min105 subs |
With and without the dual-band filter
| Filter | Bortle 3 | Bortle 5 | Bortle 7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| UV/IR-cut (no light-pollution filter) | 1 h 02 min371 subs | 1 h 42 min611 subs | 4 h 37 min1,660 subs |
| dual-band (LP filter) | 1 h 13 min441 subs | 1 h 26 min515 subs | 2 h 19 min836 subs |
About the Western Veil Nebula
A thin, bright filament of supernova shock running through the star 52 Cygni. A dual-band filter transforms it; without one it drowns in suburban skyglow.
NGC 6960, Witch’s Broom, Caldwell 34 · Supernova remnant in Cygnus · magnitude 7.0 · 70′ × 6′ · best in Jul, Aug, Sep. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.
Supernova remnants are emission-line objects, strong in both hydrogen-alpha and OIII, and their filaments are thin, so pixel scale matters as much as aperture. A dual-band filter is essential from any lit sky and still helps under a dark one. These are long-integration targets; plan on several sessions and stack across nights.
About the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro
The S50 optics at 260 mm on an 8 MP 1/1.2-inch sensor: a wider, taller field, four times the pixels, and 60 s subs in EQ mode. Per pixel it is a whisker slower than the S50 because of the longer focal length; the long subs make it the better dark-site scope.
10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.
Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.
Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.
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Same target, other telescopes
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50: 1 h 33 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30: 1 h 48 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro: 1 h 52 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF 3: 1 h 55 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF mini: 1 h 31 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab Draco: 1 h 13 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the DwarfLab DWARF II: 8 h 29 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera II: 2 h 28 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro: 5 h 32 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera 3: 2 h 21 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Vaonis Vespera Pro 2: 5 h 16 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar eQuinox 2: 2 h 15 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Unistellar Odyssey: 10 h from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin: 39 min from Bortle 6
- Western Veil Nebula with the Celestron Origin Mark II: 54 min from Bortle 6
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