How long to image the Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

From a Bortle 6 suburban sky, the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro needs about 1 h 44 min (625 subs of 10 s with the built-in dual-band (LP filter) filter) for a solid image of the Western Veil Nebula. A quick look takes 26 min; a showpiece 6 h 57 min. Under a Bortle 3 rural sky the solid figure drops to 1 h 13 min. At Bortle 6 the limit is a mix of skyglow and read noise. In this scope's field it fills 85% of the frame’s short side.

Western Veil Nebula with the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro: 10 s subs with the built-in dual-band (LP filter) filter.
SkyQuick lookTarget obvious, still noisySolidClean enough to shareShowpieceSmooth faint detail, print-worthy
Bortle 1Excellent dark site18 min106 subs1 h 10 min423 subs4 h 42 min1,692 subs
Bortle 2Typical dark site18 min108 subs1 h 12 min430 subs4 h 46 min1,717 subs
Bortle 3Rural18 min111 subs1 h 13 min441 subs4 h 54 min1,764 subs
Bortle 4Rural / suburban transition20 min118 subs1 h 18 min470 subs5 h 13 min1,878 subs
Bortle 5Suburban21 min129 subs1 h 26 min515 subs5 h 43 min2,058 subs
Bortle 6Bright suburban26 min157 subs1 h 44 min625 subs6 h 57 min2,500 subs
Bortle 7Suburban / urban transition35 min209 subs2 h 19 min836 subs9 h 17 min3,342 subs
Bortle 8City48 min291 subs3 h 14 min1,163 subs13 h4,650 subs
Bortle 9Inner city1 h 17 min465 subs5 h 10 min1,860 subs21 h7,439 subs

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Power and kit for this session

Allowing for slewing, focusing and rejected subs, that is about 2 h 15 min of run time. The Seestar S50 Pro’s battery (rated about 9 h) should cover it; a power bank still keeps the phone running the app alive. (Bortle 6, solid image; we allow 30% over the integration time.)

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How it frames

The Western Veil Nebula is 70′ × 6′ across. The Seestar S50 Pro frames 2.45° × 1.38° at 2.30″ per pixel, so it fills 85% of the frame’s short side.

Longer subs

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Time for a solid image by sub length:

Sub lengthBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
10 s1 h 13 min441 subs1 h 26 min515 subs2 h 19 min836 subs
20 s53 min159 subs1 h 05 min196 subs1 h 59 min356 subs
30 s46 min92 subs58 min117 subs1 h 52 min224 subs
60 s39 min40 subs51 min52 subs1 h 45 min105 subs

With and without the dual-band filter

Solid quality, default sub length.
FilterBortle 3Bortle 5Bortle 7
UV/IR-cut (no light-pollution filter)1 h 02 min371 subs1 h 42 min611 subs4 h 37 min1,660 subs
dual-band (LP filter)1 h 13 min441 subs1 h 26 min515 subs2 h 19 min836 subs

About the Western Veil Nebula

A thin, bright filament of supernova shock running through the star 52 Cygni. A dual-band filter transforms it; without one it drowns in suburban skyglow.

NGC 6960, Witch’s Broom, Caldwell 34 · Supernova remnant in Cygnus · magnitude 7.0 · 70′ × 6′ · best in Jul, Aug, Sep. Reachable from mid-northern latitudes (UK, northern US, central Europe) and from the south.

Supernova remnants are emission-line objects, strong in both hydrogen-alpha and OIII, and their filaments are thin, so pixel scale matters as much as aperture. A dual-band filter is essential from any lit sky and still helps under a dark one. These are long-integration targets; plan on several sessions and stack across nights.

About the ZWO Seestar S50 Pro

The S50 optics at 260 mm on an 8 MP 1/1.2-inch sensor: a wider, taller field, four times the pixels, and 60 s subs in EQ mode. Per pixel it is a whisker slower than the S50 because of the longer focal length; the long subs make it the better dark-site scope.

10, 20 and 30 s in Alt-Az; 60 s only in EQ mode, and 60 s is the ceiling. Built-in UV/IR-cut, dual-band (OIII 30 nm / Hα 20 nm) and dark filters on the telephoto camera.

Longer subs matter most under dark skies, where read noise rather than skyglow sets the floor. From a city the difference between 10 s and 60 s subs is small; from a rural site it can halve the total time, especially with a dual-band filter in place.

Stack across nights. Every smart scope app can continue a stack or you can combine the saved frames on a computer; the figures here are totals, not single-session limits.

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