Seestar S30 Pro vs DWARF II: which is faster for deep-sky imaging?
ZWO Seestar S30 Pro against DwarfLab DWARF II, on the same targets from the same skies, using the same photon-budget model as the rest of the site. Times are for a solid image; the calculator gives quick-look and showpiece figures too.
Speed. Across the 30 most popular targets from a suburban Bortle 6 sky, the Seestar S30 Pro is 4× faster (geometric mean of the solid-image times, each scope on its recommended filter and default subs). From a rural Bortle 3 sky the Seestar S30 Pro is 3× faster.
Field of view. The Seestar S30 Pro shows 3.99° × 2.24° against 3.19° × 1.79°, so big targets such as the Andromeda Galaxy, the North America Nebula and the Pleiades fit with room to spare where the DWARF II needs a mosaic or a tight crop.
Detail. The DWARF II samples at 2.99″ per pixel against 3.74″, so it pulls finer structure from small targets: planetary nebulae, globular cores, galaxy arms.
Subs and dark skies. The Seestar S30 Pro goes up to 60 s subs in EQ mode, the DWARF II tops out at 15 s. That matters little from a city, where skyglow sets the floor, and a lot from a dark site, where read noise does.
Filters. The Seestar S30 Pro has a dual-band filter built in; the DWARF II does not, which costs it heavily on emission nebulae from any suburban sky.
Specifications side by side
| Spec | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF II |
|---|---|---|
| Aperture | 30 mm | 24 mm |
| Focal length | 160 mm (f/5.3) | 100 mm (f/4.2) |
| Sensor | Sony IMX585, 8.3 MP | Sony IMX415, 8.3 MP |
| Pixel size | 2.9 µm | 1.45 µm |
| Pixel scale | 3.74″/px | 2.99″/px |
| Field of view | 3.99° × 2.24° | 3.19° × 1.79° |
| Sub exposures | 10 s, 20 s, 30 s, 60 s | 15 s |
| Dual-band filter | Built in (LP filter) | None |
| “No filter” position | UV/IR-cut | Astro |
| Read noise used | 1 e⁻ | 1.2 e⁻ |
Timed on the same targets
Suburban sky (Bortle 6)
| Target | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF II | Faster |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy | 1 h 41 min609 subs | 4 h 59 min1,198 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3.0× |
| Orion NebulaEmission nebula | 15 min89 subs | 57 min228 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 4× |
| North America NebulaEmission nebula | 1 h 43 min619 subs | 7 h 45 min1,860 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 5× |
| Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy | 5 h 21 min1,927 subs | 16 h3,817 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3.0× |
| Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula | 8 min49 subs | 25 min101 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3× |
| Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant | 1 h 52 min674 subs | 8 h 29 min2,035 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 5× |
| Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster | 8 min51 subs | 24 min97 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 2.8× |
| PleiadesReflection nebula | 3 h 08 min1,127 subs | 9 h 16 min2,225 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3.0× |
Rural sky (Bortle 3)
| Target | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF II | Faster |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy | 40 min243 subs | 2 h 31 min603 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 4× |
| Orion NebulaEmission nebula | 12 min70 subs | 31 min126 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 2.7× |
| North America NebulaEmission nebula | 1 h 14 min443 subs | 3 h 50 min922 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3× |
| Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy | 2 h722 subs | 7 h 44 min1,856 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 4× |
| Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula | 7 min42 subs | 16 min64 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 2.3× |
| Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant | 1 h 20 min481 subs | 4 h 11 min1,006 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 3× |
| Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster | 5 min30 subs | 14 min57 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 2.8× |
| PleiadesReflection nebula | 1 h 12 min433 subs | 4 h 34 min1,097 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 4× |
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About the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro
The S30 optics upgraded to a quadruplet in front of an 8 MP IMX585. Same speed per pixel as the S30, four times the pixels, so you can crop hard.
About the DwarfLab DWARF II
The original pocket scope. 24 mm aperture and tiny 1.45 µm pixels mean it is slow per pixel, so bin or downsample and be patient.
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