Seestar S30 Pro vs DWARF II: which is faster for deep-sky imaging?

ZWO Seestar S30 Pro against DwarfLab DWARF II, on the same targets from the same skies, using the same photon-budget model as the rest of the site. Times are for a solid image; the calculator gives quick-look and showpiece figures too.

Speed. Across the 30 most popular targets from a suburban Bortle 6 sky, the Seestar S30 Pro is 4× faster (geometric mean of the solid-image times, each scope on its recommended filter and default subs). From a rural Bortle 3 sky the Seestar S30 Pro is 3× faster.

Field of view. The Seestar S30 Pro shows 3.99° × 2.24° against 3.19° × 1.79°, so big targets such as the Andromeda Galaxy, the North America Nebula and the Pleiades fit with room to spare where the DWARF II needs a mosaic or a tight crop.

Detail. The DWARF II samples at 2.99″ per pixel against 3.74″, so it pulls finer structure from small targets: planetary nebulae, globular cores, galaxy arms.

Subs and dark skies. The Seestar S30 Pro goes up to 60 s subs in EQ mode, the DWARF II tops out at 15 s. That matters little from a city, where skyglow sets the floor, and a lot from a dark site, where read noise does.

Filters. The Seestar S30 Pro has a dual-band filter built in; the DWARF II does not, which costs it heavily on emission nebulae from any suburban sky.

Specifications side by side

SpecSeestar S30 ProDWARF II
Aperture30 mm24 mm
Focal length160 mm (f/5.3)100 mm (f/4.2)
SensorSony IMX585, 8.3 MPSony IMX415, 8.3 MP
Pixel size2.9 µm1.45 µm
Pixel scale3.74″/px2.99″/px
Field of view3.99° × 2.24°3.19° × 1.79°
Sub exposures10 s, 20 s, 30 s, 60 s15 s
Dual-band filterBuilt in (LP filter)None
“No filter” positionUV/IR-cutAstro
Read noise used1 e⁻1.2 e⁻

Timed on the same targets

Suburban sky (Bortle 6)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 6 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30 ProDWARF IIFaster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy1 h 41 min609 subs4 h 59 min1,198 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3.0×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula15 min89 subs57 min228 subsSeestar S30 Pro 4×
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 43 min619 subs7 h 45 min1,860 subsSeestar S30 Pro 5×
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy5 h 21 min1,927 subs16 h3,817 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3.0×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula8 min49 subs25 min101 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 52 min674 subs8 h 29 min2,035 subsSeestar S30 Pro 5×
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster8 min51 subs24 min97 subsSeestar S30 Pro 2.8×
PleiadesReflection nebula3 h 08 min1,127 subs9 h 16 min2,225 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3.0×

Rural sky (Bortle 3)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 3 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30 ProDWARF IIFaster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy40 min243 subs2 h 31 min603 subsSeestar S30 Pro 4×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula12 min70 subs31 min126 subsSeestar S30 Pro 2.7×
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 14 min443 subs3 h 50 min922 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3×
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy2 h722 subs7 h 44 min1,856 subsSeestar S30 Pro 4×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula7 min42 subs16 min64 subsSeestar S30 Pro 2.3×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 20 min481 subs4 h 11 min1,006 subsSeestar S30 Pro 3×
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster5 min30 subs14 min57 subsSeestar S30 Pro 2.8×
PleiadesReflection nebula1 h 12 min433 subs4 h 34 min1,097 subsSeestar S30 Pro 4×

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About the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro

The S30 optics upgraded to a quadruplet in front of an 8 MP IMX585. Same speed per pixel as the S30, four times the pixels, so you can crop hard.

Where to buy the Seestar S30 ProZWO store DirectAmazon UKAmazon USThe ZWO store link is a plain link; the others are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

About the DwarfLab DWARF II

The original pocket scope. 24 mm aperture and tiny 1.45 µm pixels mean it is slow per pixel, so bin or downsample and be patient.

Where to buy the DWARF IIAmazon UKAmazon USAffiliate links: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

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