Seestar S30 Pro vs DWARF 3: which is faster for deep-sky imaging?

ZWO Seestar S30 Pro against DwarfLab DWARF 3, on the same targets from the same skies, using the same photon-budget model as the rest of the site. Times are for a solid image; the calculator gives quick-look and showpiece figures too.

Speed. Across the 30 most popular targets from a suburban Bortle 6 sky, the Seestar S30 Pro is 1.1× faster (geometric mean of the solid-image times, each scope on its recommended filter and default subs). From a rural Bortle 3 sky they are about the same speed.

Field of view. The Seestar S30 Pro shows 3.99° × 2.24° against 2.93° × 1.65°, so big targets such as the Andromeda Galaxy, the North America Nebula and the Pleiades fit with room to spare where the DWARF 3 needs a mosaic or a tight crop.

Detail. The DWARF 3 samples at 2.75″ per pixel against 3.74″, so it pulls finer structure from small targets: planetary nebulae, globular cores, galaxy arms.

Subs and dark skies. Both top out at 60 s subs, so neither has an edge at read-noise-limited dark sites.

Filters. Both carry a dual-band filter, which is what makes emission nebulae practical from a lit sky.

Specifications side by side

SpecSeestar S30 ProDWARF 3
Aperture30 mm35 mm
Focal length160 mm (f/5.3)150 mm (f/4.3)
SensorSony IMX585, 8.3 MPSony IMX678, 8.3 MP
Pixel size2.9 µm2 µm
Pixel scale3.74″/px2.75″/px
Field of view3.99° × 2.24°2.93° × 1.65°
Sub exposures10 s, 20 s, 30 s, 60 s15 s, 30 s, 60 s
Dual-band filterBuilt in (LP filter)Built in (Dual-band)
“No filter” positionUV/IR-cutAstro
Read noise used1 e⁻0.6 e⁻

Timed on the same targets

Suburban sky (Bortle 6)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 6 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30 ProDWARF 3Faster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy1 h 41 min609 subs2 h 07 min509 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.3×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula15 min89 subs16 min66 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.1×
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 43 min619 subs1 h 46 min424 subsSame
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy5 h 21 min1,927 subs6 h 41 min1,604 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.2×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula8 min49 subs10 min39 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.2×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 52 min674 subs1 h 55 min460 subsSame
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster8 min51 subs11 min44 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.3×
PleiadesReflection nebula3 h 08 min1,127 subs3 h 55 min939 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.3×

Rural sky (Bortle 3)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 3 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30 ProDWARF 3Faster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy40 min243 subs44 min178 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.1×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula12 min70 subs12 min48 subsSame
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 14 min443 subs1 h 06 min264 subsDWARF 3 1.1×
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy2 h722 subs2 h 08 min514 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.1×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula7 min42 subs8 min33 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.2×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 20 min481 subs1 h 11 min285 subsDWARF 3 1.1×
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster5 min30 subs8 min30 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.5×
PleiadesReflection nebula1 h 12 min433 subs1 h 18 min312 subsSeestar S30 Pro 1.1×

Try the Seestar S30 Pro in the calculator Try the DWARF 3

About the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro

The S30 optics upgraded to a quadruplet in front of an 8 MP IMX585. Same speed per pixel as the S30, four times the pixels, so you can crop hard.

Where to buy the Seestar S30 ProZWO store DirectAmazon UKAmazon USThe ZWO store link is a plain link; the others are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

About the DwarfLab DWARF 3

Small pixels on a 35 mm f/4.3 lens give a sharper image than its aperture suggests, and EQ mode with 60 s subs makes it the read-noise winner in dark skies.

Where to buy the DWARF 3DwarfLab store UKDwarfLab store USAmazon UKAmazon USThe DwarfLab store link is a plain link; the others are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

Other comparisons

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