Seestar S30 Pro vs DWARF 3: which is faster for deep-sky imaging?
ZWO Seestar S30 Pro against DwarfLab DWARF 3, on the same targets from the same skies, using the same photon-budget model as the rest of the site. Times are for a solid image; the calculator gives quick-look and showpiece figures too.
Speed. Across the 30 most popular targets from a suburban Bortle 6 sky, the Seestar S30 Pro is 1.1× faster (geometric mean of the solid-image times, each scope on its recommended filter and default subs). From a rural Bortle 3 sky they are about the same speed.
Field of view. The Seestar S30 Pro shows 3.99° × 2.24° against 2.93° × 1.65°, so big targets such as the Andromeda Galaxy, the North America Nebula and the Pleiades fit with room to spare where the DWARF 3 needs a mosaic or a tight crop.
Detail. The DWARF 3 samples at 2.75″ per pixel against 3.74″, so it pulls finer structure from small targets: planetary nebulae, globular cores, galaxy arms.
Subs and dark skies. Both top out at 60 s subs, so neither has an edge at read-noise-limited dark sites.
Filters. Both carry a dual-band filter, which is what makes emission nebulae practical from a lit sky.
Specifications side by side
| Spec | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF 3 |
|---|---|---|
| Aperture | 30 mm | 35 mm |
| Focal length | 160 mm (f/5.3) | 150 mm (f/4.3) |
| Sensor | Sony IMX585, 8.3 MP | Sony IMX678, 8.3 MP |
| Pixel size | 2.9 µm | 2 µm |
| Pixel scale | 3.74″/px | 2.75″/px |
| Field of view | 3.99° × 2.24° | 2.93° × 1.65° |
| Sub exposures | 10 s, 20 s, 30 s, 60 s | 15 s, 30 s, 60 s |
| Dual-band filter | Built in (LP filter) | Built in (Dual-band) |
| “No filter” position | UV/IR-cut | Astro |
| Read noise used | 1 e⁻ | 0.6 e⁻ |
Timed on the same targets
Suburban sky (Bortle 6)
| Target | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF 3 | Faster |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy | 1 h 41 min609 subs | 2 h 07 min509 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.3× |
| Orion NebulaEmission nebula | 15 min89 subs | 16 min66 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.1× |
| North America NebulaEmission nebula | 1 h 43 min619 subs | 1 h 46 min424 subs | Same |
| Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy | 5 h 21 min1,927 subs | 6 h 41 min1,604 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.2× |
| Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula | 8 min49 subs | 10 min39 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.2× |
| Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant | 1 h 52 min674 subs | 1 h 55 min460 subs | Same |
| Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster | 8 min51 subs | 11 min44 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.3× |
| PleiadesReflection nebula | 3 h 08 min1,127 subs | 3 h 55 min939 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.3× |
Rural sky (Bortle 3)
| Target | Seestar S30 Pro | DWARF 3 | Faster |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy | 40 min243 subs | 44 min178 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.1× |
| Orion NebulaEmission nebula | 12 min70 subs | 12 min48 subs | Same |
| North America NebulaEmission nebula | 1 h 14 min443 subs | 1 h 06 min264 subs | DWARF 3 1.1× |
| Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy | 2 h722 subs | 2 h 08 min514 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.1× |
| Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula | 7 min42 subs | 8 min33 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.2× |
| Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant | 1 h 20 min481 subs | 1 h 11 min285 subs | DWARF 3 1.1× |
| Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster | 5 min30 subs | 8 min30 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.5× |
| PleiadesReflection nebula | 1 h 12 min433 subs | 1 h 18 min312 subs | Seestar S30 Pro 1.1× |
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About the ZWO Seestar S30 Pro
The S30 optics upgraded to a quadruplet in front of an 8 MP IMX585. Same speed per pixel as the S30, four times the pixels, so you can crop hard.
About the DwarfLab DWARF 3
Small pixels on a 35 mm f/4.3 lens give a sharper image than its aperture suggests, and EQ mode with 60 s subs makes it the read-noise winner in dark skies.
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