Seestar S30 vs DWARF 3: which is faster for deep-sky imaging?

ZWO Seestar S30 against DwarfLab DWARF 3, on the same targets from the same skies, using the same photon-budget model as the rest of the site. Times are for a solid image; the calculator gives quick-look and showpiece figures too.

Speed. Across the 30 most popular targets from a suburban Bortle 6 sky, the Seestar S30 is 1.2× faster (geometric mean of the solid-image times, each scope on its recommended filter and default subs). From a rural Bortle 3 sky they are about the same speed.

Field of view. The DWARF 3 shows 2.93° × 1.65° against 2.13° × 1.20°, so big targets such as the Andromeda Galaxy, the North America Nebula and the Pleiades fit with room to spare where the Seestar S30 needs a mosaic or a tight crop.

Detail. The DWARF 3 samples at 2.75″ per pixel against 3.99″, so it pulls finer structure from small targets: planetary nebulae, globular cores, galaxy arms.

Subs and dark skies. Both top out at 60 s subs, so neither has an edge at read-noise-limited dark sites.

Filters. Both carry a dual-band filter, which is what makes emission nebulae practical from a lit sky.

Specifications side by side

SpecSeestar S30DWARF 3
Aperture30 mm35 mm
Focal length150 mm (f/5.0)150 mm (f/4.3)
SensorSony IMX662, 2.1 MPSony IMX678, 8.3 MP
Pixel size2.9 µm2 µm
Pixel scale3.99″/px2.75″/px
Field of view2.13° × 1.20°2.93° × 1.65°
Sub exposures10 s, 20 s, 30 s, 60 s15 s, 30 s, 60 s
Dual-band filterBuilt in (LP filter)Built in (Dual-band)
“No filter” positionUV/IR-cutAstro
Read noise used1.2 e⁻0.6 e⁻

Timed on the same targets

Suburban sky (Bortle 6)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 6 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30DWARF 3Faster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy1 h 32 min552 subs2 h 07 min509 subsSeestar S30 1.4×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula14 min84 subs16 min66 subsSeestar S30 1.2×
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 39 min597 subs1 h 46 min424 subsSeestar S30 1.1×
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy4 h 51 min1,748 subs6 h 41 min1,604 subsSeestar S30 1.4×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula7 min45 subs10 min39 subsSeestar S30 1.3×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 48 min651 subs1 h 55 min460 subsSeestar S30 1.1×
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster8 min46 subs11 min44 subsSeestar S30 1.4×
PleiadesReflection nebula2 h 50 min1,022 subs3 h 55 min939 subsSeestar S30 1.4×

Rural sky (Bortle 3)

Total integration for a solid image from a Bortle 3 sky, default subs, recommended filter for each scope.
TargetSeestar S30DWARF 3Faster
Andromeda GalaxyGalaxy38 min231 subs44 min178 subsSeestar S30 1.2×
Orion NebulaEmission nebula11 min67 subs12 min48 subsSeestar S30 1.1×
North America NebulaEmission nebula1 h 14 min442 subs1 h 06 min264 subsDWARF 3 1.1×
Pinwheel GalaxyGalaxy1 h 55 min689 subs2 h 08 min514 subsSeestar S30 1.1×
Ring NebulaPlanetary nebula6 min39 subs8 min33 subsSeestar S30 1.3×
Western Veil NebulaSupernova remnant1 h 20 min481 subs1 h 11 min285 subsDWARF 3 1.1×
Hercules ClusterGlobular cluster5 min30 subs8 min30 subsSeestar S30 1.5×
PleiadesReflection nebula1 h 09 min412 subs1 h 18 min312 subsSeestar S30 1.1×

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About the ZWO Seestar S30

Wider and lighter than the S50 with the same 2.9 µm pixels, so its per-pixel speed on extended targets is close despite the smaller aperture. Ideal for big nebulae.

Where to buy the Seestar S30ZWO store DirectAmazon UKAmazon USThe ZWO store link is a plain link; the others are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

About the DwarfLab DWARF 3

Small pixels on a 35 mm f/4.3 lens give a sharper image than its aperture suggests, and EQ mode with 60 s subs makes it the read-noise winner in dark skies.

Where to buy the DWARF 3DwarfLab store UKDwarfLab store USAmazon UKAmazon USThe DwarfLab store link is a plain link; the others are affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases, at no cost to you.

Other comparisons

Seestar S30

DWARF 3

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